Chapter 18
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If you want to save the old one in a new post on the same thread that also works. But the first post in the campaign threads should always be the latest copy.
@Falconius I think I’ll post it in the ‘For fun: back when I’d written a beginning to chapter 18’ channel, but rename this as ‘Chapter 18 drafts’ or something.
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@falconius @hexlor I’ve started writing Chapter 19, and want to make sure I’ve got the continuity straight.
iirc, the Loveless and the Labs are two separate places - Lemmy and Owen were first taken to the Loveless, but then were taken ‘up the tunnel’ to the Labs. Is that correct? If it is, is it safe to assume Lemmy and Owen know of their current place of captivity as ‘The Labs’? I remember James saying that most ‘work’ in the Labs isn’t clearing rock, and that clearing rock had only been included as a result of both mine and Jacob’s misunderstanding. I’m assuming that means that they know something about the lab parts of the Labs, though Jacob’s 18 kind of implies otherwise?
Are L&O aware that Fassogen is the one running the Labs? Again, I assume it’s fair to say that he’s made an appearance and/or that there are other inmates who know of him, such that they do, especially since they’ve been there for a while as of ch 18. Does that track?
Edit: Just noticed that I’d missed that Jacob had mentioned something about the place being called the Labs at the beginning of 18 (if I’m reading right - I’m not entirely clear what’s being called the Necros and the Labs there). Does that mean that the place is colloquially referred to as the Labs by the inmates?
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The inmates at Lovalace don’t know anything about the labs (theooretically, maybe they have rumours from the guards, who also wouldn’t really actually know). No one goes back and forth. For the prisoners it is a one way trip, for the guards they make the prisoner exchange in the tunnels and Lab workers (ie the four armed guy) escort the prisoners to the labs. The labs are Necroengineering labs. They are staffed by Majikar and their creations, and the prisoners, who they use both for labour and as experimental material when required or if it is more expedient than waiting for an out side supply. The prisoners are essentially slaves there who all end with a bad way. But the Lovelace does not receive prisoners in such numbers that they can meet such a high demand from the Labs, so many of the prisoner slaves in the Labs can actually last for years (now that they have restarted, this is based on past practices). Mining, is just not what happens at the labs, unless they need to expand their secret facility. Which currently they don’t really need to do as they are still only slowly filling up the already constructed parts that they they may need to clear from debris or collapses as the result of abandonment for who knows how many decades.
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@falconius ok, I may have a deeper misunderstanding - are L&O currently in the prison or the Labs? I had thought they were already in the latter, but now am thinking that I misunderstood, and that they’re still in the former?
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Yes clearly I was far too cryptic when I left off chapter 17, I should have given you guys an outline of what happened, given that I wasn’t writing next and figuring it out would have come from context in the next chapter, but would be impossible without me writing it too.
Problem is I keep wanting to write things like I’m actually running the game
.L&O were transported to the Loveless, there they spent a bit of time removing, and starting to feel relatively safe. Then they got moved again, this time from the Loveless to the Wastrials Necro facility via underground tunnels. This is the same facility Quint and Nephiron raided, and where in tunnels leading to the Naul (West) and out of the facility, some few hundred meters, Nephiron was justifiably killed.
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Yes clearly I was far too cryptic when I left off chapter 17, I should have given you guys an outline of what happened, given that I wasn’t writing next and figuring it out would have come from context in the next chapter, but would be impossible without me writing it too.
Problem is I keep wanting to write things like I’m actually running the game
.L&O were transported to the Loveless, there they spent a bit of time removing, and starting to feel relatively safe. Then they got moved again, this time from the Loveless to the Wastrials Necro facility via underground tunnels. This is the same facility Quint and Nephiron raided, and where in tunnels leading to the Naul (West) and out of the facility, some few hundred meters, Nephiron was justifiably killed.
Then they got moved again, this time from the Loveless to the Wastrials Necro facility via underground tunnels.
Ah, so they are in the Labs. I take it that’s where Four Arms is, as I’m assuming something so obviously unnatural wouldn’t be seen in the Loveless proper?
I did want to make sure, even though I haven’t referenced it yet - I had thought that you’d ok’d there being some efforts at clearing some tunnels inside the Labs, and had assumed that Owen was on the team.
Truth is, it’s worth revisiting ch 18
Each morning we were taken into the tunnels which ran beneath the Loveless prison, and put to work clearing them out from rubble. Shoring up the walls with timber struts to make the passages passable. The other prisoners called them the Necros.The guards called them the Labs. Nobody knew why we were clearing them out or where the tunnels led.
I’m basically asking if the above can be taken as canon.
I was the smallest of the prison crew, but what I lacked in brawn I made up for in my knowledge of excavation and knew where it was best to dig. Nevertheless, after the first few days, my body was feeling the results of the relentless work and I managed to persuade Gavinger that I could be more useful to the digging efforts in other ways. Perhaps out of our kindling friendship, Gavinger made the suggestion, and I was transferred to kitchen duties, or what passed for a kitchen down here.
My impression on reading this is that it basically ignores the lab component of the Labs entirely. I feel like we have a very divergent read on the Labs between @hexlor and @falconius , with Jacob’s being a non-functional lab under construction by a heavily guarded prison gang, and James’s being more like a Magikar-run horror house. I’m worried that I might even be a third opinion, though I’m not sure where I’m diverging.
I think I can write my chapter regardless, but the pedant in me is convinced this is going to make continuity issues.
I’m not sure what the best fix is. I’m willing to take a shot at editing/remixing 18 after I do 19 to bring it closer to what I see @falconius as describing if @hexlor is ok with that, but I know I wouldn’t really want anyone doing that to my chapters, so it’s fine with me if that’s a no-op.
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Then they got moved again, this time from the Loveless to the Wastrials Necro facility via underground tunnels.
Ah, so they are in the Labs. I take it that’s where Four Arms is, as I’m assuming something so obviously unnatural wouldn’t be seen in the Loveless proper?
I did want to make sure, even though I haven’t referenced it yet - I had thought that you’d ok’d there being some efforts at clearing some tunnels inside the Labs, and had assumed that Owen was on the team.
Truth is, it’s worth revisiting ch 18
Each morning we were taken into the tunnels which ran beneath the Loveless prison, and put to work clearing them out from rubble. Shoring up the walls with timber struts to make the passages passable. The other prisoners called them the Necros.The guards called them the Labs. Nobody knew why we were clearing them out or where the tunnels led.
I’m basically asking if the above can be taken as canon.
I was the smallest of the prison crew, but what I lacked in brawn I made up for in my knowledge of excavation and knew where it was best to dig. Nevertheless, after the first few days, my body was feeling the results of the relentless work and I managed to persuade Gavinger that I could be more useful to the digging efforts in other ways. Perhaps out of our kindling friendship, Gavinger made the suggestion, and I was transferred to kitchen duties, or what passed for a kitchen down here.
My impression on reading this is that it basically ignores the lab component of the Labs entirely. I feel like we have a very divergent read on the Labs between @hexlor and @falconius , with Jacob’s being a non-functional lab under construction by a heavily guarded prison gang, and James’s being more like a Magikar-run horror house. I’m worried that I might even be a third opinion, though I’m not sure where I’m diverging.
I think I can write my chapter regardless, but the pedant in me is convinced this is going to make continuity issues.
I’m not sure what the best fix is. I’m willing to take a shot at editing/remixing 18 after I do 19 to bring it closer to what I see @falconius as describing if @hexlor is ok with that, but I know I wouldn’t really want anyone doing that to my chapters, so it’s fine with me if that’s a no-op.
I’m basically asking if the above can be taken as canon.
It cannot be cannon.
My impression on reading this is that it basically ignores the lab component of the Labs entirely. I feel like we have a very divergent read on the Labs between @hexlor and @falconius , with Jacob’s being a non-functional lab under construction by a heavily guarded prison gang, and James’s being more like a Magikar-run horror house. I’m worried that I might even be a third opinion, though I’m not sure where I’m diverging.
Correct. Unfortunately due to my lack of providing you guys with enough information, large portions of Jacob’s chapter cannot be considered cannon. If you read most of that chapter as them actually being entirely in the labs it can still, for the most part, work.
The facility you guys are in is basically the same you found with Quint and Nephiron. At that time it was abandoned, they have now restarted it. At least the hidden parts of it. The entire point was to get you guys to the destination where Nephiron disappeared (because you guys seemed to want to fast track that bit).
Ah, so they are in the Labs. I take it that’s where Four Arms is, as I’m assuming something so obviously unnatural wouldn’t be seen in the Loveless proper?
I did want to make sure, even though I haven’t referenced it yet - I had thought that you’d ok’d there being some efforts at clearing some tunnels inside the Labs, and had assumed that Owen was on the team.
Correct.
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Then they got moved again, this time from the Loveless to the Wastrials Necro facility via underground tunnels.
Ah, so they are in the Labs. I take it that’s where Four Arms is, as I’m assuming something so obviously unnatural wouldn’t be seen in the Loveless proper?
I did want to make sure, even though I haven’t referenced it yet - I had thought that you’d ok’d there being some efforts at clearing some tunnels inside the Labs, and had assumed that Owen was on the team.
Truth is, it’s worth revisiting ch 18
Each morning we were taken into the tunnels which ran beneath the Loveless prison, and put to work clearing them out from rubble. Shoring up the walls with timber struts to make the passages passable. The other prisoners called them the Necros.The guards called them the Labs. Nobody knew why we were clearing them out or where the tunnels led.
I’m basically asking if the above can be taken as canon.
I was the smallest of the prison crew, but what I lacked in brawn I made up for in my knowledge of excavation and knew where it was best to dig. Nevertheless, after the first few days, my body was feeling the results of the relentless work and I managed to persuade Gavinger that I could be more useful to the digging efforts in other ways. Perhaps out of our kindling friendship, Gavinger made the suggestion, and I was transferred to kitchen duties, or what passed for a kitchen down here.
My impression on reading this is that it basically ignores the lab component of the Labs entirely. I feel like we have a very divergent read on the Labs between @hexlor and @falconius , with Jacob’s being a non-functional lab under construction by a heavily guarded prison gang, and James’s being more like a Magikar-run horror house. I’m worried that I might even be a third opinion, though I’m not sure where I’m diverging.
I think I can write my chapter regardless, but the pedant in me is convinced this is going to make continuity issues.
I’m not sure what the best fix is. I’m willing to take a shot at editing/remixing 18 after I do 19 to bring it closer to what I see @falconius as describing if @hexlor is ok with that, but I know I wouldn’t really want anyone doing that to my chapters, so it’s fine with me if that’s a no-op.
I’m not sure what the best fix is. I’m willing to take a shot at editing/remixing 18 after I do 19 to bring it closer to what I see @falconius as describing if @hexlor is ok with that, but I know I wouldn’t really want anyone doing that to my chapters, so it’s fine with me if that’s a no-op.
No. Leave people their chapters to do with what they will. As long as your chapter is more in line with the made up reality it will still work, and if need be, and he ever feels like it, 18 can be retroactively corrected to match what happens further down the lines. Consider 18 a draft and in not binding on any small continuity problems (such as them being miners instead of doing menial lab work). In fact we probably want to keep that general idea in regards to all chapters.
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